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May 07, 2006

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I picked up Blues & Roots by Charles Mingus today. It's a favorite.

JazzTheo,
You continue to strike a chord (pardon the pun) in how people must envision and enact the journey of following Jesus. Jazz reflects, emits, and, for those with ears to hear, can create life. Thank you for the inspiration.

Stephen,

Mingus was the man...I believe that it was him who said, “Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple.”

stay in the groove,
jt

Phil,

Good to hear from you and thanks for the kind words...

Whatever happened to that Chicago thing?

jt

I'd love that kind of environment, JT. I don't really see that happening in the context of the traditional Sunday service. That is more like watching a concert with a talented player on the stage. I can go home and practice what I heard, but there is a big difference between a concert and a jam session. Do we do away with the concert completely, allow it to take a back seat to the jam session or just try to fit in a jam every so often, if our schedules are clear? I vote for the occasional concert and a whole lotta jammin.

Katsura,

Hmmm...well first of all, worship services are 1/7 of the week, so they seem to be taking a back seat to the Christian life already. Especially if you compare it to the number of concerts a jazz musician does per week.

But I am not sure that I agree with your assumption that the "concert" (that is the place where you put into practice what you learned in the jam session) is a worship service. So no I don't think that we do away with the concert...the concert is what it is all about...I just disagree with you as to what the concert is.

jt

Still working on the Chicago meeting....save your dates in early December.

just want to say "jazz theo" great blog - i put you on my "innovative homeboyz" list - love it!

Hey, it's your blog, so you get to define the terms. Based on your definition of the concert, then, I have to tell you that the concert sounds like "look at me, do what I do" and that does not sound like community.

Community and therefore "Christian Living" is supposed to be based on relationship, not mimicking someone who has it all together. The way I see it, in this metaphor, the mentoring that Berliner talks about happens during the jam session, not the concert.

In short, it's all a jam session... My wife, my kids, friends, co-workers, the stranger I talk to on the bus, the stranger I choose NOT to talk to on the bus (and thus exclude from my jamming); I don't want to perform for them, I want to interact with them. That is what builds community.

Awaiting your thoughtful reply...

Katsura,

you've inspired me...Community is this thing that can be defined in a variety of ways...so let me devote a few posts to the kind of community I envision.

You are right when you say that what I am talking about sounds like "look at me do what I do." and you say that that does not sound like community.

Are you sure? How did Jesus and the scriptures define community? Was it based upon relationships as you say?

Help me understand what passages are informing your view of community...

JazzTheo and Katsura,
I've reread the post several times and I cannot see where it advocates the mere mimicking of someone who has it altogether. The very goal of the community (jam session) is to help the apprentice fins his or her own voice, not lock-step follow the leader. Jesus said, "The apprentice is not above his Master, but when the apprentice is fully trained (creating improvised jazz, not just reading 'notes'), he will will like his Master (Luke 6:40) Jesus and the Twelve were a jazz community, not a classroom community. Being a follower of Jesus is a skill (like jazz), not content ("repeat after me"). I hope these few comments help your jam session.

John,

Thanks for stopping by...I think that Katsura would agree with you but was questioning the "church worship service," as viable way of learning to be like Jesus--as a jam session. I think that it is "a" jam session and should not be "the" jam session.

jt

I love this post. As jam sessions involve respect for the particularity of each player, their skill, and the nature of the instrument being played. It's this fusion that makes for beautiful music.

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